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Home Made Wagon Repairs Finished | Clarks Fork Canyon | Engels Coach

Home Made Wagon Repairs Finished | Clarks Fork Canyon | Engels Coach

Well last week’s video I ended up
mentioning that I’ve become a student of the wagons themselves as far as how I
learned how to do what I do. Now it doesn’t mean that I’ve become a student
of the history of the wagons, but my intention and goal has been over these
past 40 years to study the style and craftsmanship that went into building
these wagons, and that varies from wagon manufacturer to wagon manufacturer, and so
because I work on such a wide variety of wagons, this style of craftsmanship has
become very important for me to focus on, and then learning the skills to
duplicate or replicate what was done. So the wagon I’m working on today,
through these videos, is a home made wagon. So my goal and intention is to
stay true to the integrity of that wagon just as much as I would have an old
1800s traditional wagon. Now if it becomes necessary that I make
adaptations or changes because of safety sake, that’s what I will do, but even on
this wagon I’ll stay true to the character of this wagon. So this is the
wagon that we’ve been working on. These are a couple of wagons that are over at
the range riders museum in Miles City. A nice old army military wagon, they have a nice
Bain wagon there also to look at. This is a Buckeye wagon that I have here, also
this is an old Mitchel wagon. This is a picture of a Winona style wagon, and
not all wagons are identifiable. This one is a John Deere wagon running gear. This
one is a Studebaker, you watched us fix this one. This is also another Studebaker.
This running gear here is an International. So you begin to see, when
you become accustomed to looking at traditional style wagons, that when you
see a wagon like this, it’s not really quite traditional. The tongue is not
traditional. When we start to recognize traditional
bolsters and standards, when we see this, it’s not quite traditional. The rear axle
with the reach hounds, and all that, there’s a traditional style to putting these
together, and this is not a traditional style. It’s functional and it’ll work, but
it’s not really traditional. This is a traditional brake clutch and block. We
look at this and go yeah, it’s not traditional, but it’ll function. This
wagon will function, we just need to make it to where it is safe. Now the tongue
that the owner brought for me to transfer over has a sliding style neck
yoke. This is more for implements, where the old one was more ring style, so I’m
gonna disassemble this sliding rail from the tongue and we’ll put on just a bolt
center neck yoke to make this work. Well the tongue of this style generally is
found on farm equipment more than it is on wagons. It’s been off of some
implement, perhaps a cultivator or a rake, but it’s a little wide so I’m gonna
narrow it down, and since it’s been mounted on some other form of equipment
it has some extra holes in it, so consequently I’m going to take and dowel
and fill this big hole. And I don’t really understand why this old tongue
was notched. I don’t quite understand the reason for it so I’m not gonna notch the
second tongue. I’m gonna actually adapt the iron and leave the tongue full
thickness. So with the Doubletree transferred
from the old tongue to the newer tongue we had to transfer the bottom wear
plate and this top iron called the hammer strap. So I’m not going to put the
ring style neck yoke on this newer tongue, I want a bolt center neck yoke,
but this old neck yoke is too narrow so I have a wider neck yoke that’s going to
match the doubletree evener in the old doubletree. Now there is kind of a
message of the madness. You see the direction of the grain? Well I want the
pull to be in line with the grain when it’s hooked up to the horses and this
will give the neck yoke its greatest strength, so when the wagon is being held
back when it’s going downhill by the team or when the teamster asks the team
to stop the wagon, all the pressure through the harness is transferred
forward to this neck yoke. And the center bolt which will actually
attach this new yoke to the tongue itself also needs to be in line with
these neck yoke eyes. Well this customer wanted an additional
six inches in length from the doubletree to the neck yoke.
We’ve got just right at six, six and a half inches. Well this should make a good
transfer for the tongue. Well one of my observations when working on this wagon
was the inefficiency of the brakes that were on this wagon. A straight faced brake
with a round curved wheel gives a very limited contact surface so I talked the
owner into allowing me to put a different set of brakes on them, one that
will actually fit the wheels, and I’m going to increase the size of contact on
these brake blocks and since the irons don’t line up well with the tires I’m
gonna have to modify these blocks just a little bit. So while you watch me put these new
blocks in you can probably see why a tapered break clutch has its advantage
on this little straight homemade piece of iron. You can see all the downward
pressure is being held only by two quarter inch bolts. Now the best braking
coefficients when you’re working with mechanical brakes is rubber against
steel, so since these wheels have steel tires I’m going to put a rubber pad on
the blocks. In the other case of using wagons with rubber tires, I would put a
steel face on the block. Well this is as far as I’m going to take
this wagon. We’ve made sure that the wheels aren’t going to come off, we’ve
increased the tongue length by six inches and we’ve increased the braking
ability with better fitting brake blocks. Well I’ve been asked by a number of you
what I do in my spare time, what do I do for fun? One of the things I enjoy doing
is going to the mountains. We are about 25, 26 miles from the face of the
Beartooth Mountains so when I can I enjoy going up to see the mountain
scenery, and you can tell that by the number of scenery shots that I like to
include on the front of my videos. Well here a while back I loaded up my
four-wheeler and I went to the mouth of the Clarks Fork Canyon in northern
Wyoming by the little town of Clark. So I’ve included a few shots of that
afternoon hoping you might enjoy some of the scenery that I get to enjoy. As always, thanks for watching! you

100 comments on “Home Made Wagon Repairs Finished | Clarks Fork Canyon | Engels Coach

  1. Truly beautiful part of the country. I have traveled through the rocky mountains area several times and marveled at the majestic scenery. Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho are 3 of the states I have not yet visited but would like to someday.

  2. Have enjoyed your videos for some time now. Living in Morganton, NC, I am about a thirty-minute drive from Hickory, N. C., home of the once prosperous Piedmont Wagon Company. I found this post on and though you might enjoy seeing a few photos made in the factory during its operation.

  3. Mr.Engels, is there a video in which you can tell what year certain wagon wheels were built & where ?? I have two wagon wheels and would want to find how old they are. Thank you

  4. More great moments in your shop ! Thank you for allowing me to follow you and watch your skills . I'm still.looking forbsome working drawings to build my Granddaughter some mini horse drawn vehicles , if you can give any direction , much appriciated .

  5. That's sure some beautiful country over your way, Dave. Thanks for taking us along.
    My uncle used to be a Sheriff's deputy in Red Lodge years ago… always enjoyed visiting him and seeing all the beautiful scenery around that area.

  6. Hi Dave. I want to thank you for your warm and generous hospitality this morning. Meeting with you and visiting your store in real life was a great experience. Thanks again.
    Привет Дейв. Я хочу поблагодарить вас за ваше теплое и щедрое гостеприимство сегодня утром. Встреча с вами и посещение вашего магазина в реальной жизни было отличным опытом. Еще раз спасибо.

  7. Clarks fork is still running pretty high and if you find your way to cody stop by the shop and thanks for the great videos

  8. Looks like the terrain of OSOYOOS, BC., CANADA.
    WTH ?? … near WASHINGTON STATE BORDER, SEMI-ARID,…. cactus, rattlesnakes, and sagebrush.

  9. I love the beartooth highway and also chief joesph road some of best views I ever seen you are truly lucky

  10. Bet you do some real deep and meaningful thinking up in those Canyons Dave, could feel the solitude in watching. Very nice, thankyou.

  11. I am a rare bird, a Wyoming native. I was raised in Jackson Wyoming and I know how you feel about the mountains. I also had the great privilege of serving in the USAF at Mamlstrom in Great Falls air base for two years.in those years I made many fishing and hunting trips in the state of montana. Great memory’s of mountains and canyons cannot be beat!

  12. Great scenery in Wyoming. It appears to be a little off the beaten path, and I suspect a 4-wheeler is the best way to see it.

  13. You cannot put too much information in your videos for me. They are both fascinating to watch and educational.

  14. Absolutely beautiful ! You just can’t express that scenery in words……you just have to be there!

  15. 20 some years ago this Yankee worked a harvest crew out of Kansas. We got into the Hardin and great falls areas. I always remember the view around Carter ferry near great falls as very scenic. Your ending on this video reminded me of those views but much better. Sometimes wish I wouldn't have come home after the season was over!

  16. how do you keep your self from painting those wagons when you get finished like the one in this video lol it would be hard not to paint it after putting in so much effort i know it is the cost an time but you could convince the owner that it was for safety reasons lol you do great work and i understand but it has to be hard i repair small engins genarators and shuch and always catch my self making them look good and losing money lol thanks for the videos

  17. And, there I was, thinking you had a hard but very rewarding life, then you show the clips at the end and envy levels soar to max.
    When you have a peace and goodwill battery recharger that close to home, it all makes perfect sense.

  18. Dave, thank you for the video showing more of what is traditional vs. not traditional. Also, I'm envious of your local scenery (I live in Florida with its "lack" of mountains)! I'm really looking forward to your next series and/or individual videos.

  19. I so enjoy watching your work activities. Thanks for the awesome views of the mountains and your wonderful videos.
    I've skid logs with horses/mule teams and have had to make 'emergency replacement, quickly carved singletrees'. Just grabbed an axe, chopped an iron wood tree and some minor carving and said, "that'll do, I'll make a better one later"…lol. Do you think that time every came….no!…just forgot about it and moved on….until it dried out and shrunk (falling to the ground) or broke again…lol. Oh the olden days of life, how I gladly/pleasantly miss (some of) them….lol

  20. I'm watching and I noticed the grain pattern and was looking at the rings and wondering what the grain pattern looked like on the old wagons compared to what you are constructing today and does that make any difference.

  21. Absolutely beautiful thanks for sharing it with us. Like some antique furniture they say it can destroy its value if restored in a non authentic way. Is that the same with some wagon restoration of antique wagons.

  22. I think I saw Billy the Kid riding along that river…I'm sure…..WOW..what wonderful country. Thanks for showing all that

  23. Nice video! Actually, there need to be a few farms all over the country which demonstrate that farming also works nicely without machines. That in fact machines have driven people into the big cities. And in these big cities there you have it all unfolding…..homelessness, mass unemployment, people eating bad food and getting sick, last but not least — the highest suicide rate in the history because of depression. Why depression, because we are disconnected from nature. Of course, we enjoy the machine age but to what price?

  24. Hmm, if you were to build a wagon or three for yourself, what would they be? What features would an Engels Wagon have?

  25. awesom countryside and love the all the footage that you bring to the world all the best from down under Tasmania

  26. Enjoyed the video Mr Engel. The scenery is spectacular. I like the mountains too. We have the Blue Ridge Mountains here where we live. Our mountains are like big hills compared to those where you live. Y'all take care and God bless.

  27. Perfection in motion as always… fit and finish is everything i always like to say….. mountain areas was always my favorite places too get away from the hussle and bussle of every day living… keep the videos coming I always enjoy watching and looking forward to seeing the next video 👌👌👍👍

  28. Mr. Engels, one of the other commenters asked about an Engels wagon. That sounds like a really good idea. With all your past experience, I suspect you could make a really great wagon with your own traditional style. Maybe you could ask your blacksmithing daughter to create some special forged parts that are functional and stylish. What do you think?

  29. Mighty fine looking country over there at Clarks Fork. Might just have to come back over and have a look. Regards to you and Mrs. Engels… Chris & Pauline

  30. Wow that is beautiful 😍 in October I'm packing up and heading out west Montana is beautiful and I will stop to see the big sky!!!!!

  31. Always good to see your dedication and skill , and you live in a beautiful part of the world ,from what I see 🇬🇧

  32. i love your marksmanship and how you explain why your doing something.but wow i loved seeing your trip please keep them coming also.you definitely live in gods country

  33. Greetings from Sicily and always thanks for your videos of craftsmanship and the images of your excursions. ciao

  34. What can one say other than, "America The Beautiful" and that you are one lucky man, having both an artistic talent held by but a few and the good fortune to see the grandiose beauty of those mountains, valleys and rivers as well. Thank you for both the video of your work and the view of what few people ever get to see.

  35. Very nice video of your work as always and a big thank you for showing the lovely country side you have beautiful 👍👍😀😀🇬🇧

  36. I've spent a lot of time in the Appalachian mountains, but it's hard to get an expansive view there because the trees are always in the way. Also, I can't help wondering if "old homebuilt" could be a category of "Traditional", even if there's no consistency of design.

  37. As always an interesting video of your work in the shop. The mountain scenery was my type of scenery, and reminded me in some parts of Scotland. All best wishes from the UK.

  38. What an ending to a video! Beautiful music and scenery! I was so relaxed by the end of the music I was nearly asleep. Thanks for that. I love that Montana/Wyoming border area. We're up there a fair amount just touristing around. Looks like Clarks Fork Canyon is a place to visit. We might run into you there one day. Thanks for the video – very informative and interesting as usual.

  39. Thank you for the pictures of mountains. This is such a lovely counterpoint to the usual stupid output from the USA that we normally get across the pond.

  40. Your part of the country is awsome. I always enjoy the videos and I learn alot. Thanks and keep them coming. God Bless

  41. Well Mr. Dave, you were doing OK with what you had to work with, but then you had to Finnish with The Clark Fork !!! You just had to make my little hart go pitter patter an rub it in ( I loved it ). The other thing I observed was the the black iron that was with the wagon ( I do not know what it was called ) was in fact nothing more then the tow bar set up that was part of a standard tow set up used on all the 1940's FLAT fender Jeeps, that I rebuild.!!! Once again, have a good one. RA

  42. As always you put a smile on a old man face. Breathtaking views. If I may ask how much open land is there? What I'm trying to ask is how much for riding a horses?

  43. I was also VERY impressed with the PINK tape on the Ball Peen hammer. Leave it up to you to color code were each of your MANY hammers belong.!!! RA

  44. I realize you are the Master and I the wee little viewer- taking a minute with a j roller prior to stapling the rubber strip on the brake head would provide a little more even pressure ensuring more contact with your contact adhesive? As always learning so much from your videos and thanks for sharing.

  45. You never cease to Amaze me with your skill and dedication to “ Doing it Right “
    Look forward to every episode.
    God Bless You 🙏

  46. You never cease to Amaze me with your skill and dedication to “ Doing it Right “
    Look forward to every episode.
    God Bless You 🙏

  47. Dave, thanks for the explanation and the Great travel video shots. As usual, I am soooo envious of your neighborhood.

  48. I found your channel about a month ago and have been watching your older stuff as well as the new videos. All the while, there has been something off, something that just wasn't right. It hit me yesterday what is wrong. You need a cowboy hat! Its not right seeing a man build wooden wheeled equipment while wearing a baseball style cap! 🤠 Thanks for your channel!!

  49. Beautiful part of the country. Makes me want to get on horseback and just meander through the canyon. Thanks for sharing!!

  50. I really enjoy watching your videos, but stop skipping steps (in the video, you obviously did them)!! For example, you stated you were going to dowel the hole, then a moment later it was magically done. I would love to see that step! Same for making the z-bend in the iron. You stated you were going to adapt the iron, then it was bent. I would love to see it all!

  51. Thanks for the scenery.Being near St. Louis gives us the Ozarks,but NOTHING like that!.I saw your ATV….In the areas you show,can you climb/explore by foot/horseback?Are there ATV trails?I wouldn't want to ride like we do in the sand pits up there for sure,but I'd love to look closer at that waterfall if I lived there.Stunning!

  52. Enjoyed the video as always especially the trip shots at the end. You certainly live in a lovely part of the world.

  53. I like to come hear once a week by myself genuflect on my life, MONTANA has been good to me I hopefully hav been good to MONTANA..I look thru the eyes of the native Americans ,I look thru the eyes of a mountain man,if only I had my horse and pack horse my Hawkins 54 .cilivization 🎭 spits.There there 🎼🎸HEAR COMES THE SUN I throw sum grass to the wind.hunt trap no modern day no ' A MOUNTAIN MAN 1840🤔..what is that oh my alarm on my watch ,oh jeminy I'm late even with my 1975 Ford bronco never make it but if I face ' Southeast ' with my android phone yes yes there it is,got it, praise the Lord.. 'A NEW CAR '🚙 😵😄 screaming yelling crowd,contestant erupts like this sunrise.Drew gets a hug.that's rite Drew its a new 2021 Ford bronco…contestant ( I wanted a GMC)..hmm turning 70 with the GREAT SPIRIT I will see this sunrise at 80..🏔🌅🏔…🦃 ( don't hav an eagle but Ben Franklin suggested Turkey as national symbol, perhaps🚬) over head gobble gobble….

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