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Macintosh SE and Apple Prototypes – Vintage Apple Vault #5

Macintosh SE and Apple Prototypes – Vintage Apple Vault #5


– Hey, welcome back to the vault. Let’s talk about the Macintosh. When it first came out,
what do you think some of the issues with it were? Yeah, it had several,
but lack of expansion was definitely one of them. But Apple had a plan to fix that while still maintaining the
compact, all-in-one form factor. Enter the Macintosh SE. (dramatic instrumental music) The Macintosh SE was
introduced March 2nd, 1987, along with the Macintosh Two, and the SE stood for System Expansion. It was the first compact Macintosh to feature an expansion
slot, and it was internal. It was also the first compact Macintosh to introduce a bunch of other features, but we’ll get to those very soon. So Steve Jobs was very strict
about end-to-end control when the original Mac came out. Heck, you even needed a T15 screwdriver to open up the darn thing. Yeah, you still need that
to open up this thing, but at least this thing
has expansion slots. The original Mac had none of that. But in 1987, Steve Jobs wasn’t at Apple. So did the engineers have
a little extra freedom? Possibly; it’s something to think about. But for now, let’s dive in
and take a look at this guy. The Mac SE followed Apple’s Snow White design language. It had a 3D Apple logo on the front, it had the horizontal stripes, a platinum-colored case with
very minimal surface texturing, the whole nine yards. Below the Apple logo
was the brightness knob, and the speaker was also on the front, positioned toward the user so you could hear it a bit better, and on top was a carrying handle, another thing Apple really
liked to put on their computers. The screen was 512 by 342,
one bit, black and white, and it was nine inches
measured diagonally. – It’s just perfect; the
size, it’s just perfect. The module looks tiny, but
it’s pretty usable, actually, because it’s so crisp and sharp. – So the system expansion capability was nice with the internal expansion slot, but that was just one of the new features. This was also the first Mac to feature an internal hard disk option. You can configure it with
either two floppy disk drives, or you could have one of
the drives be swapped out with a hard disk in either
20 or 40-megabyte capacities. Now my particular SE has a
500 megabyte hard drive in it because I can. When it comes to the expansion slot, there were several options
for cards you can install, such as an accelerator card. You would use a T15
screwdriver to open the case, or Apple would likely
recommend you bring it in to get serviced, you take the case off, take the board, put it on the
slot, (makes popping noise), put the case back on,
and you’re good to go. Steve Jobs did not like noisy computers. He was very adamant on not
having a fan in his products. But again, the SE came out
when he wasn’t at the company, so the engineers threw a fan in this guy. And that helped a lot because it was rated for up to 15 years of life expectancy now that the power supply
had a cooling system. And since there was also
a hard drive in here, a fan was mandatory ’cause, otherwise, this thing would just get way too warm. And a fun thing is, when
testing these prototypes, there would be clear
cases on the computers, and people would put smoke in them to test how the air flow works. And, again, it was rated up to 15 years, and, as you can see,
(computer beeps) mine still works just fine, and it’s way older than 15 years. The motherboard for this
Mac was also redesigned, and a big efficiency change
was with video circuitry. A custom gate array was used, and what that allowed the computer to do was continuously redraw
graphics on the display while sending that data to the
video circuitry way quicker, which means less of
the RAM had to be used. So with this new efficient change, about a quarter of the RAM had to be used to help control the
video as opposed to half. In terms of IO, this computer had two
Apple Desktop Bus ports. This is actually the first
time they appeared on a Mac. They were previously on the Apple 2GS. It had two serial ports, audio out, DB-25 SCSI, and DB-19 for a floppy drive. The processor was an 8 MHz Motorola 68000, and you could have two floppy drives on the front, which were 800K drives. Again, you could swap one
of them out for a hard disk. And later, in 1989, you can get a 1.44
megabyte floppy disk drive. You could also configure the computer with up to four megabytes of RAM. This particular computer has one megabyte, and it shipped with the two 800K drives, but I swapped one of the
drives out with a hard disk. Overall, pretty cool little computer. Now, Apple sold quite a few of ’em, so I’m not the only one
in the world to own one. So I have other collectors that wanna show you some cool stuff, including a rare prototype of the SE, which was built with a clear case. So as I was searching vintage
Apple product collectors, I just could not pass up this opportunity. This is Hap, and he has a
prototype Apple collection, an amazing prototype Apple collection. So I headed out to California
to meet up with him in person. But since I was in the Valley, I figured why not make a
few stops along the way? (upbeat music) ♪ Woo ♪ ♪ Woo ♪ ♪ Woo ♪ ♪ Everybody get up ♪ ♪ Woo ♪ ♪ Woo ♪ ♪ Woo ♪ ♪ Everybody get up ♪ All right, let’s get on with it. – The Mac has been my daily driver since I was in eighth grade. I believe my first Apple was an iBook G4. I had previously used a Macintosh TV when it was around in the early 90s, but we took it to an
Apple retail repair place, and they had it for six
weeks and couldn’t figure out what was wrong with it. And it turned out that somebody had just flipped the
power switch on the back, and my parents got so fed up with the fact that that’s all that was wrong with it, and it had been there for six
weeks, that we moved to PC. I believe I had a compact for awhile, so it took awhile to get them
back on the Mac Apple train. And eventually, my friend had a G4 Cube, thought it was the coolest computer ever. But they were too expensive
for me to be able to afford, so, after a year or so of bugging them, they gave my sister
and a power, excuse me, iBook G4s for Christmas. My prototype collection probably has at least 250 pieces in it. 2006 Mac Mini prototype. This one’s really cool because it obviously it
has the built-in iPod dock. Lisa 2 prototype; probably was a Lisa 1. Actually, I can pretty
much guarantee you it was a Lisa One at one point in its life. Super, super early 20th
anniversary Macintosh. Very, very rare. Only a couple of these, I guess, were supposedly known to exist without John Sculley’s signature. This is a Japanese LPGA PowerBook, often called the Lego
PowerBook for obvious reasons. This is my WALT, in one 1993, your typical do not sell
or trade type jargon there. Pretty rudimentary, hatched
together PowerBook 100. Dual G4 PowerBook, 1.5 gigahertz here. I haven’t counted in
awhile, but also have a lot of stuff that are boards,
pieces, things like that that I have in the closet where I keep all of the other stuff that
I just have and hold. So if you counted all that
stuff, probably 400 pieces or so. What got me interested
in collecting, as far as what I really do nowadays,
was I graduated college. I still, as I do to this day,
have an affinity for G4 Cubes. They were relatively inexpensive
at that point in time. The G4 Cubes, part of the reason
why they were discontinued was they only had essentially
a two-point mounting system on the acrylic case, and, when
you would tip the computer to work on it on its
side, that would put a lot of pressure and torque on those screws, and so they were susceptible to cracking. And so finding one with
a really nice clean case, because the acrylic is pretty
soft, that wasn’t cracked, you could maybe spend three, 400 bucks. So I started upgrading
them, the sonic chips and Giga, forget what the
name of the company was, Giga something, were readily
available fairly cheap. And so I started upgrading ’em, putting solid state drives,
maxing out their RAMs. Towards the end of it, I got to the point where I was putting in
Mac Minis inside of ’em ’cause they pretty much
are a direct fit in there and was making money doing that, nothing crazy but enough to pay the bills and enjoy what I was doing. So this is where I have most
of my iPhones, iOS-type stuff. What product would be the rarest? It’s actually two of ’em. They’re the Acorn iPhones, the
all-black original iPhones, plastic screens, raw
bezels, running two versions of internal operating system ones, the kind of operating
system that we saw today, which you click on something
and it takes you somewhere. Letters pop up and
numbers, where applicable, or icons, whereas the other one was essentially an augmented
iPod scroll interface that you could use a digital scroll wheel to get to different applications
and things like that, which I posted a video of
a little over a year ago. But those, I would have to say, would be the tip of the iceberg. Nanos and Minis down there. We’ve got my first Macintosh SE prototype. I would have to say the favorite product in my collection is my Mac SE, like with anybody’s first
car, first whatever. It was my first one that I owned. And, as much as I love
G4 Cubes and iPhones and things like that,
because it was my first and the story and how I
got it, I would have to say that that one would be my favorite of all. I’ve had people offer me lots of money. I’ve had a couple of ’em at this point that I’ve either sold or traded, but I wouldn’t let that specific one go. I was perusing Craigslist one day, and I found a gentleman that
had listed a clear Macintosh SE on Craigslist, didn’t have any
photos or anything about it. So I started doing some research on him and found a gentleman that had sold one and had a bunch of posters made for him. And I started talking with him, and he had done a lot of
research on the subject, and they were extremely
rare and extremely valuable. And the gentleman wasn’t
asking an incredible amount of money for it. Again, I was just out of college, didn’t have a whole lot of money, but I did have a lot of gadgets and stuff lying around the house, so I think I ended up trading him. There was some cash involved,
and then I traded him an iPad, maybe a first gen at
the time, give or take, and then an upgraded G4 Cube which, at that point, was
essentially free for me. And I think the iPad somebody had given me ’cause they said it was broken and I just replaced the battery, so it was more or less free, too. I bought it from him. He was a really nice gentleman. He was from somewhere in the North Bay. He had worked at an inner school city after-school program for trying to help inner city kids
get access to computers because, at the time in the early 80s, that wasn’t something that was afforded to a lot of those kids. So he and his buddy had developed
this after-school program to allow kids that wouldn’t have access to computers to be able
to use them after school and in an attempt to try to bridge the gap between them and their counterparts that were afforded the
opportunities to use computers. And that ended up going
on for a couple years, and then, as things
happened, life went on, and the business partner
of his gave him a computer in a black carry case
and said here, thank you. This is for all your work. And I believe he said his
buddy worked at Apple as well, and he didn’t think anything of it. He just figured it was just a takeaway, and he put it in his garage. And he was moving, for whatever reason, and he pulled it out, and he
said he almost threw it away. He just figured it was,
basically, a useless, by most people’s definition
of the word, beige Mac. And he probably said he
still had 30 of 40 of ’em. But for whatever reason,
he decided to open it up, and he had never even known. He said he barely even said thank you because he just thought it
was like, well, thanks, man. You know I have a bunch
of these in my garage. And so he called his friend back and apologized for being an
ass, for lack of better words, because he had never
really opened it to see and almost was gonna throw it away. And so they had a laugh about that. But yeah, he basically had just sat on it for 30 years, basically, and
didn’t even know what it was. So a lot of prototypes, especially when they were made of plastic, started clear for a
couple different reasons. One, on machines that had
it, was what I’d been told is for smoke testing. So they would basically pump smoke in through the machine and
then watch the air circulation to see if they either needed to relocate or add a vent or move some
components somewhere to make sure that there was adequate cooling. If you don’t know this,
Steve Jobs was not a fan at all of basically having
any fans in any computers. But when you have that type of power going through a machine, much like
your car, you need for it to be cooled, otherwise
it’s gonna malfunction. So he was very form over
function in that regard. But when they did have
fans, it was to make sure that it was gonna get adequate cooling, that it was getting ventilation to where it needed it,
and, a lot of times, that it was also to just check
clearances and tolerances to make sure that all the components were all sitting correctly,
nothing was touching where it shouldn’t be so that they could kill two birds with one stone. And then, eventually, they would go and use the beige plastic on the same injection molds
that they would then turn into the machines that
you typically see today. That was basically the start
of my prototype collection. It was my first one. I was curious about what
other types of devices. Obviously, there’s been
hundreds, if not thousands, of products released by
Apple at this point in time. Found a gentleman up in Oregon that has a very large
collection of prototypes, started talking to him about his stuff, how he’d gotten it, and
just started to open my eyes because, from every product
that you’ve seen come to fruition and that we
use on a daily basis, there has been multiple,
multiple iterations of that product in order
to get to the place where we have it in our hands today. And oftentimes, there
are small, little nuances that exist with the
prototypes that are different than what we see today, some
of them good, some of them bad. And then there’s the other products that literally have never made their way to the market, that they
are so prototype that, outside of knowing that you
either worked on that team or inside the company or
incidentally having that product, nobody knows that they really existed. (vault door slamming shut) (vault door opening) – Hi, I’m Jan Beta, and I run
this little YouTube channel where I do restorations,
repairs with vintage computers, primarily, and yeah. I never expected this to happen, but I have quite a collection
of old computers now, doing this for two years. So amongst other things, I have
this beautiful Macintosh SE that I’m going to talk about today. I am going to primarily talk
about the SE 30, though, which I did quite some
repairs on to get it working. So this is my collection
of classic Macintoshes. Starting with the Mac Plus, the next model, the Macintosh SE. This is actually the one
that has a hard disk in it. This is the Macintosh SE 30, which was the followup to the SE and had a faster processor
and stuff like that. I obtained these from the
coworker’s father, actually. The coworker showed his father
a video I made a while back about ZX Spectrum repair that I did, and these ZX Spectrum was the first computer the father owned, and he liked my style and my work that I did with the Spectrum. So I remembered he had these
sitting in the basement, and, yeah, never really
using them anymore. It was pretty hard for
him to let go of these, but he decided to let them go to my place where they could have a nice, new home and get some use and
some necessary repairs. These two work. The Macintosh Plus still
needs some special care. Doesn’t really work yet, but
I’m going to fix that soon, I guess. So this is the machine I did
the most work on as of yet. I had to because I had random crashes on startup. Sometimes, the screen
would be completely dark. Sometimes, I would get
a zebra stripe pattern, horizontal stripes, on the screen, which is also known as
a Simasimac symptom. So all these symptoms are because of the little electrolytic
SMD surface mount capacitors that are on these main boards. These computers are from an
era where the surface mod, the electrolytics were
not very good in general, and most of them, after some
decades, started leaking. And at least they start deteriorating in some way or the other,
so it is recommended to replace all those
capacitors on these boards. And what I found on
this board is that most of the electrolytics have leaked, so I could see some corrosion around that. I had to clean the board thoroughly with some white vinegar
and some distilled water and some alcohol, and I
replaced all the capacitors. There was one trace that broke while I was replacing the capacitors because the surface was so
corroded that I couldn’t save it, so I had to run a little botch wire, which is a pretty common
fix for these because, basically, the electrolyte that’s in the capacitors corrodes
the traces on the board. And I got lucky because it
was only that one trace, and it has been working ever since. Fingers crossed that it
remains in this state, otherwise I know what to look for, like broken connections on the board. This is a common failure of these, so it is recommended to
do the same on your board and have a look, at
least, at the capacitors. Another common thing to look for on these, and this goes also for the
Macintosh SE without the 30, they have a battery on the motherboard that probably is leaking
after all those years. You can just remove it. In this case, this is
soldered to the board, so you have to clip the leads. They are dangerous in that
they can start leaking and also corrode the traces on the board. They are needed for storing some settings, like the internal clock
settings and some other stuff. But these machines will
work without the battery, or you can just get a replacement battery. They are commonly available still. So I recommend at least having a look at the board and removing the battery. Did that on this one as well,
like in all my classic Macs. And, as I said, there’s still
some restoration work to do on all my Macs. (chuckles) So that’s something I am
planning on doing this year. I primarily use the SE 30,
which you can see here, because it’s just more powerful, plus it can read HD floppy disks. And I really like the version
of Pirates that’s on here, which is just the black and white version of Pirates, which is really cool. What I primarily want to use
this for is for text editing, which the little monitor
is just perfect for. I love the little form factor, that it has a handle on top here. The form factor of the classic
Macs, it’s so gorgeous. If you’ve never seen one in person, you won’t believe how
gorgeous these things are. – So there you have it, the Macintosh SE, tweaked form factor, new
features, expansion capabilities. Overall, an awesome little computer. And those things helped take the Macintosh to the next level. If you have an SE, I’d like
to know your own stories behind it or any other
vintage Apple product, for that matter. Feel free to drop me a line down below because I am a curious cat
when it comes to Apple stuff. And if there’s any other
suggestions for Apple products you wanna see on the show in the future, let me know down below. But for now, that’s all
I have for you today. Thanks for watching, and I’ll see you in the not-too-distant future. (upbeat music)
(vault handle spinning)

100 comments on “Macintosh SE and Apple Prototypes – Vintage Apple Vault #5

  1. The SE/30 was my first Mac. My grandfather got it because he lost it in his darkroom at Mission College. So many years when by and he found it while he was clearing his office and gave it to me. She still works like a dream.

  2. Oh boy, I have a story for you!

    So around 1998, I had no computer and I was a broke college student. However, it was around this era when I started working on computers for a living, so I had a ton of different parts laying around the workplace. So, about a month after my birthday, a family friend comes into our shop and drops off their Macintosh SE SuperDrive. They said it was very old and not worth fixing, so they wanted to trade it in with us for a discount on a new machine. I was in the back room servicing an older Performa (I believe) desktop, so I had no idea what was going on. My coworker comes back into the room and asks me to come up front. So, I walk back to the front with him and greet my friend, and she explains what is going on. I basically tell her that there isn't much we can do as it has many issues and at that point in time our supplier no longer could send us parts for that model. Few hours of catching up and exploring newer models later, she finds the new (at the time!) Power Macintosh G4 graphite on our shelf, and ended up buying it. As I was ringing her up, she asked if I could recycle the SE for her. I was shocked, partly because I was envious my college and high school life of people who had those, and also because it looked very clean and nice. I told her I would take it off her hands and get rid of it one way or another.

    Flash forward around 20 years to today. I now have it up and running. Removed the clock battery, and I hope to get something done with those darn capacitors too in the future. Heck, I even got the original 20MB hard drive to spin up. When I first acquired the machine, I did replace the faulty floppy drive, which was just because I had some at work laying around. Now the replacement has died, and I am looking into buying another one. I absolutely loved your look back at the SE and prototypes and hugely appreciate the work you are doing in maintaining these old, and certainly well-loved machines for future generations to come.

    Thank You again, so much.
    -Sam

  3. I have a late 2003 iBook G4, it is the oldest apple product in my house and the first one my parents bought.

  4. Hey, finally a Vintage Apple Vault video about a Mac I own!
    I have the FDHD version with a 20MB hard drive, and I recently maxed out the RAM.
    Picked mine up for $7 at garage sale back in 2006. Amazing how pricey they've become!

  5. I still have a few old macs sitting around somewhere. I think I still have a mac plus and a couple of classics and an SE30. Most of them were temperamental about booting up so they remain a collection of boards and cases. Apart from the mac plus and a classic where I still have a carry case.

  6. I've got a couple of SE's in various states of working order. My main one is hooked up to a SCSI Zip Drive that acts pretty much like a second hard drive. I had it hooked up to two SyQuest drives, but the carts and drives were just absolutely unreliable and would develop errors even when using new old stock. The Zip disks so far have been very good for transferring files between the SE and some slightly newer Macs and then backing up the files to my more modern Macs through my home network. Nothing beats an original Mac for playing the old Might and Magic games. 🙂

  7. "In there for 6 weeks and they couldn't figure out what was wrong with it, it turns out the powerswitch was turned off…" Yep, that sounds like Apple.

  8. I have a. Mac SE, sadly the hard drive has failed and I no longer have the install disks. Currently it sits in my closet until I can find a way to fix it. Lovely little machine.

  9. I visited 1 infinite loop in 2012 – and I remember seeing one of these translucent compact macs! If I recall. In a third floor office window visible from the front entrance there was what looked like a lime green translucent SE/30. Anyone have info on these machines?

  10. Ive wanted a classic Mac for a vary long time, but they are sooooooo expensive it’s just not worth it to me!

  11. Ah, this was my first Mac. Funny story of how I got it, I was walking late one night and noticed out on someone's yard as part of their trash a familiar shape. I thought nothing much of it walking but when I came back I checked it out again and saw that it indeed was a classic Mac. Not just any classic Mac, but an SE. Yep, I just kind of stumbled across it and trash picked it.

    I took it home to discover, as you would expect, it not working. Well, it tries to work, but the monitor just arc's on the inside of the tube when you actually power it up. I've never been able to test it further, and I fear most every aspect of it is dead – it looks rough, yellowed, and a little chipped in places – but I wouldn't mind spending the time to at least see if I can get the display working right, and then diagnosing problems from there.

    I never went too far into it, and really need to take it to the shop, tear it down, and remedy any issues it has that are obvious fixes before they get worse, if they haven't already killed it completely.

    Regardless, it looks cool on the shelf. Didn't think a that time back in, oh, 2014 maybe I'd actually be as into these types of systems as I am now.

  12. I’m a former Apple employee from the ‘90s. I used to have a small but interesting collection but I’ve let most of it go. Had a 128k, several Quadra, and various PPCs, but I still have the first Mac that I ever bought myself and that’s a Mac Classic. Love that little computer. That guy is right, it’s great for word processing when using a full sized ADB keyboard (the best Apple keyboard ever), and when you want a small footprint. Even better than an iPad Pro with keyboard, IMO, (which I’m typing on now). The Classic just started with the capacitor problem, so I need to get that fixed. Still have my dual 2.5 G5 watercooled tower which runs fine, and two of my current systems, two heavily upgraded 2009 Mac Pros. I was always attracted to the towers. But I also like the G4 Cube, the black Macintosh TV, the Classic Plus (the 030 version I believe), and of course the Color Classic (which my friend had for awhile). I also had a Duo Dock that I used in collage months before I joined Apple. Thanks for the nice video. 👍🏼

  13. I got into collecting old apple computers because of a macintosh SE, when steve jobs died I got interested in old macs and my dad knew this. One day he was walking around a second hand store and called me because there was an old mac SE for sale for only 20 euro's! It was always running he said, he had seen it before but no one had bought it so he did for me. Was the first old apple computer that I owned, the next day I also got an imac g3 🙂

  14. You should make a video about the original Mac Mini and how it brought the price of Macs way down for consumers.

  15. I have owned 2, one which I got used in 1990, and the second one I got 2 years later from a publishing company which was switching to other systems, and their se30 had died on them. So they gave me the computer, and all of its accessories which included a Radius Pivot card and 17" monitor, HP IIVX Scanner, external cdrom and a couple of hard drives. At this time I had also picked up a Daystar Turbo 040 33 accelerator (128k L2 cache version) which was also compatible with the Radius Pivot, and SCSI ethernet device. I had kept it to 8mb of ram for much of its service life and only upgraded it to 20 after digging it back out of storage a few years ago to use as a vintage gamer.

    I primarily used the system for music composition and production. I had also done some graphic work with it as the screen could do 832×624 in 16 bit color. And sported hardware quick draw acceleration. It was a fast machine and could blow away any Mac II and even keep up with Quadra and later LC's. The SE30 which was dead, was victim to a power supply which blew up and pretty much toasted most things in the computer. I have kept it as a parts machine as the tube still works and has a spare floppy ect.

    The next computer I got was a base model Powermac 7100/66 with 8mb of ram running 7.1.2. And man was its performance underwhelming…. At least until I got a few PPC native software updates….

  16. There are some original Mac prototypes out there that have Twiggy (5.25") drives! I downloaded the disk images. They boot up with a modified Mini vMac ROM.

  17. I had an SE with 2 HD floppies AND a 40MB hard drive. It wasn't a configuration they offered, but there is ample room in the chassis to do it.

  18. Fun fact. Easter egg with the developers' photo can be found by going into the debugger (button hidden behind the vent slots at lower rear left of case) and type in G 41D89A at the debugger.

  19. a few years ago i bought a mac classic ii from ebay that didn't work, so i assumed the capacitors had leaked. when i opened it up, it turns out the internal clock battery had leaked out all of its acid onto the motherboard and pretty much destroyed it. so i had to order another mac classic ii motherboard on ebay and it didn't work either. but i was able to fix this one. this one had the capacitor issue and the clock battery was intact. i cleaned the motherboard, replaced all the old electrolytic capacitors with new ones and some tantalum capacitors, and then it worked fine. i also replaced the clock battery as it was dead. (the clock battery is in a holder instead of soldered directly onto the board.). and i also rewired the clock battery holder so that it is under the motherboard. and i put some plastic wrap on the bottom of the motherboard while keeping the clock battery outside the plastic wrap. so that way, if the clock battery leaks, the motherboard will be shielded from the battery acid by the plastic wrap so that way, the worst that happens is i'll only need to change the clock battery (and possibly the plastic wrap) and the motherboard will remain unharmed. the mac still works to this day.

  20. Introducing The Macintosh SE smart
    With 4K True Tone Display
    Mac OS Mojave!
    Smart Apple Keyboard And Mouse
    USB Input
    And USB type c
    Speakers and more!
    Coming soon!

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  22. Back in the day I upgraded my SE to an SE30. I used my power PC to transfer data and create floppies for it. I didn't know about the modified disk utilities for using non Apple disk drives. Wish I still had my SE.

  23. I've had probably 90% of all the production Apples made upto 2000. Then I started getting only the best per year and that was it. But my old favorite was the DUOs, such as the PowerBook Duo 270c and the PowerBook Duo 2300c/100 with the Duo Dock II, which had built in extention slots, extra VRAM, Hard Drive area, ethernet, the floppy, charger and POWER LOADING and EJECTION! Those, were nice!

  24. My first Mac was an SE, but I was happy to restore my SE/30 just in time for its 30th anniversary this year and create a music video with it: https://youtu.be/Cha4QcX8q3M

  25. We have an SE/30 on display at Sharp Solutions in Cumberland, RI. We discovered while recapping the board, swapping the analog board, and swapping the CRT that it was actually an upgraded original SE, which was not at all an uncommon practice for Apple products from the Apple II through the Power Macs to be upgraded in this kind of way. It has a new front plate, motherboard, and a sticker updating the back of the case, but the rest of the components were original to the SE, and also explained why the disk drive was only reading/writing 800k.

  26. I´m trying to make a video of my vintage Apple computers. And the Story behind them. But I do need a good light.

  27. The 'walled garden' approach Apple has taken stifled the potential of the Mac to compete with the open source PC. If Apple had adopted the open source philosophy at the beginning then Apple would have had far greater market penetration.

  28. I found a Macintosh Classic II in a local abandoned cheese factory, also some chemistry products, big pack of acid testers… the Macintosh needs to be cleaned, and I think it remains a ghost inside or something coz it glows

  29. I have a MacSE with a Radius 020/16 (sadly, no 881/882), 4MB of RAM and the 40MB HDD. I just rebuilt the floppy, replacing the infamous Sony disintegrating eject cog of doom, so everything is working perfectly. I'll eventually recap it, but since the caps are still scoping out clean, it can wait a bit. The machine was acquired by a family member in early 88 and then upgraded with the Radius 16 less than a year later, and it's easy to see why when you disable the accelerator – that 8 Mhz 68000 struggles with System 6, especially when running Word 4 or 5 or Pagemaker. 31 years later, the machine is still a pleasure to use – even the screen still looks great.

  30. I had an SE 30 back when they were worthless. It was an interesting little beast to be sure! I took the whole thing apart and painted it matte black. It looked awesome! I'm sure if I did that today I would be murdered by the vintage Apple community, but they really were not worth anything at the time!

  31. I love this guy. I bet he could find me a lid replacement for my PM 7600. Yeah I could probably find a G3 or what not, but I woulkd like to find a PM 7600 case lid. Mines cracked:( and people like this are in the know. I am very impressed!

  32. I have a love for the first gen PPC Macs. I grew up playing video games on them and learning the HyperCard programming language. And playing hours of Marathon.

  33. @Computer Clan, I'm surprised you would make a video like this and not mention the amazing work of developers for this machine. I know MacEffects is making a custom clear case for this machine, and others have made Wifi for this Mac. It's really disappointing that you wouldn't even address the future of these systems and the hard works of people still creating things for others. 🙁

  34. I was like "if this guy shows an SE/30 instead of an SE"…. then before a minute is up he does DANGIT

  35. I purchased a 700 MHz iBook G3 Snow for €35 with a dead HDD. I could replace the HDD with some sort of flash storage and reinstall Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.

  36. I have one of these. I used it till the mid 90s for music composition and production.
    A few weeks ago I pulled it from the closet, plugged in and hit the switch and it started right up, and even launched the program as if it was ready to use.My file were still there on the HD.

  37. 5:07 A unblurred version of Ken face at Apple Park and also little cameo of Krazy Ken Misadventures episode. 😅😂

  38. When I heard it had a handle, I imagined a rich guy pulling up to the McDonald's in his Ferrari, walking in with a Macintosh, and plugging it in while eating a cheeseburger 😂😂😂

  39. They use to have a replacement color CRT for the SE30's. My buddy in college replaced his after his second co-op because he was getting the CRT flaking that happened periodically to the SE and SE30's.

  40. I have an SE, the version with the internal hard drive. It was my grandfather's, and I found it while cleaning out his attic after he died. I had always wanted a classic Mac but never could afford to spend that much money on what would essentially be a curiosity. But here was one for free! It had been sitting up there for who knows how long, but when I plugged it in, it booted right up into System 6! I never found the keyboard and mouse, but I got those off of eBay for about $25. When I hooked them up, I found out the computer worked flawlessly and that my grandfather had installed an aftermarket 45 MB hard drive (originally 20 MB) and put in 4 MB of RAM. It had a lot of programs including Microsoft Word and Excel, and a recipe book, but the one thing it didn't have was any games. I found a guy online at RescueMyClassicMac.com who makes 800K floppy disks with games and other fun programs and I bought a few to download onto my SE. I even have Photoshop 1.0! I've had it now for almost 5 years and it still works just fine. I'm glad I found it!

  41. SE/30 was the first compact mac that was usable out og the box.
    Macs were generally waaaaay too slow until the Quadras.

  42. I had one of these! I owned the Macintosh Classic and the SE! Great lil computers! And is the iphone SE not a tribute to the SE mac?

  43. man i only liked the ipod classic cuz it could run emulators with rockbox but also replaced the hard drive with ssd but now days apple is trash with there shity over priced customer serivces

  44. I don't buy that Steve Jobs was against expandability and fans. The Apple II series and Apple III didn't have a fan, but were expandable. The Next had a fan and was expandable. The PowerMacs were all expandable and some featured several fans.

  45. Not only did you need that T15 to open the case, doing it yourself immediately voided your warrantee. You had to take it to a "Qualified Apple Service Shop" in order to maintain that warrantee, and pay quite a hefty price in the process. Making this ironic, is that the signatures of all the devs were etched on the inside of the case, and opening the case was the only way you could view them.

  46. I had ALL of those, many of every model made, then about 8 years ago I threw them all away. The trash pickup company gave me a receipt for hauling it all away… 12 tons.

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